2 observations

[Ms. C]

1. I didn't know that.... I thought.... (7)

2. It was interesting to learn.... It explains.... (9)


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[john]

it was interesting to learn about the plague and its impact on England. while reading about the population boom, i thought about what was mentioned earlier, about how parents hardened themselves against the death of their children, and then for them to have a whole bunch more of children after the plague. didn't they wonder if the plague will come back?

i thought that this history lesson took a side and gave it to us as if it were a fact. not everyone believes that Shakespeare is god like, in fact, i believe it was in my freshman year, in Mr. Hacketts class, that we learned that Shakespeare was actually not well liked, he was believed to be an imposter, not the true author of these "amazing" plays.

[zacko]

I find it funny how not liking Shakes is practically a crime to culture and tradition. If you do not find Shakespeare amazingly awesome you are definitely in his case f'ing with the order of things. The first page states that you're encounter with Shakes should be very enjoyable, so when one reads a book by Shakes they read Shakes himself.( Page 1)

[john]

i love your terminology, refering to f'ing. and i find it funy also, not liking shakespeare is apparently a crime, haha

[zacko]

I found it kind of weird how in order to be a gentle man in England a man had to refrain from working a "blue collar job," yet those who work jobs that require brains are considered right. To maintain a social status without working with hands is genius, but unethical and in my opinion impossible. In order to freely say "look mom no hands" one must first rise to that position doing what ever it takes. Unless Queen Elizabeth provides free grants for everyone than being a gentle man must be very hard.(Page 7)

[mayrapuente]

It was interesting to read about the legal status of women! In the beginning of this section, the text states that women were very restricted. For example, married women did not possess any rights (Greenblatt 9-10). Then, towards the middle of this section, the text claims women possessed more rights than individuals cared to admit (10).

For me, it is almost strange to imagine a world where women had limited rights because there are now prosperous women everywhere. In fact, women currently make up 57% of all college students!

It is ironic, really. Men once suppressed women, but when given the chance, women instantaneously bested the males.

Keep it up ladies!



It was also interesting to read of the alleviation of pain patients received (2). I mean, to receive alcohol as an anesthetic? That's just so surreal! Imagine a woman who is about to give labor, and you give her alcohol to "dull the terror." That just comes to show how much our nation has progressed in the medical field. Thank God!

[mayrapuente]

John, lol!

I remember that! I remember being in Mr. Hackett's and learning of the individuals who doubted that Shakespeare was the creator of his plays. Good memory!

Also, good observation about the families who continued to have children despite the huge impact the plague had on them. But, you have to admit that people are stubborn and sometimes irresponsible. I mean, take our generation for example. We witness tragedies, mishaps, and dilemmas, yet some of us continue to put ourselves in the same position of hardship without asking "what if the plague comes back".

[isaiah]

the first observation i found on the reading was on the first three paragraphs on page one, people of that time almost looked at shakespear as a demi-god and thought he was this all powerful being that new everything, i found this amuzing to read that people almost worshiped him.

the second observation i made was on page 9"the legal status of woman" i found this funny because even through the people of this century had a queen they still looked at women as the lesser vessel, you would think they would give them more rights.

[isaiah]

myra,
i think its funny when women want the same rights as men but dont want to be treated like men. its good, ya that women are coming up in the world it really is it just gets me mad when they start complaining about how hard the female plight is in the work force.

[Carina Felix]

Mayra, you know I had to reply to your post because it had to do with women! I agree with you about how more liberated we are now..
I know back then women were shoved into a small box and not let to really use their knowledge, but I think its because men were afraid... because they knew women were super amazing & superior!
I just had to say because its all that I was thinking when reading your post.

[Crystal Ruiz]

I found it interesting and yet a little frustrating when they spoke of frequent deaths becoming a ''routine''. I can agree with Johns perspective in how parents continued to have kids but I find it frustrating because these kids have to face death early before they turn fifteen yet the parents won't stop having kids. (page 2)

I found it interesting how the rebellions had also struggled because of hunger and oppression. I never knew that the rebels had called themselves ''Levelers" and "Diggers" because they had no quarrel with the king. In the end, I believe that this information will support many of Shakespeare's writing. (page 9)

[Janelle Castillo]

i didn't know that people were so malnourished and sick because of malnourishment that they would drink forty gallons of beer a year. women, men, and kids. i thought it was interesting because its a shock from how current laws are.

i thought it was interesting that the government tried to pass laws that restricted the ranks of aristocracy. these laws were put in to try to protect the social order. i knew that social class meant a lot but i wasn't aware that it was taken to this level. it explains Shakespeare's view of not messing with the order of things because that was the view of others around him.

[Janelle Castillo]

my first observation was from page 4
my second was from page 6

[Janelle Castillo]

crystal
you said "I find it frustrating because these kids have to face death early before they turn fifteen yet the parents won't stop having kids." it was hard for the parents as well but at times children were needed to help around the household or help earn an income. big families were normal and although families were low class they still needed a male to pass down the name.
but i do see your point. it doesn't seem fair to keep having children when you know there's a high possibility that they wont live to be 15, we cant comprehend putting children through that type of pain.

[Crystal Ruiz]

I can agree with you Zack, I think people who do not like Shakespeare happen to be committing a crime and they should be servilely punished. ha No, I actually believe the first page is enjoyable because it speaks of Shakespeare's writing and I agree that we are reading about Shakespeare himself. So good observation Zack!