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Post by mayrapuente on Nov 13, 2012 22:47:40 GMT -5
"In women's waxen hearts to set their forms!"
With this line, I feel Viola is trying to say that women are weak.
When I think of "waxen", I think of wax. Wax can be transformed into several figures, shapes, and sizes. So, when Viola states that the women's hearts are "waxen", I think of the heart being able to alter and adjust to anything. For example, the heart can adjust to loving someone who is kind and loving someone who is deceitful. Then Viola claims "to set their forms", as if the heart alters to the personality of the man.
Therefore, I think Viola is saying women are weak because even though a man can be deceitful, the woman still falls in love with him. Women are weak because they were made to love. It is in their nature. They cannot do anything to change their loving nature, but simply adjust to the forms, or the personalities, of the men.
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Post by crystalruiz23 on Nov 13, 2012 23:52:49 GMT -5
Response to: "In women's waxen hearts to set their forms!" Before this line was said, Viola explains that it is easy for a woman to be seen in false matters. When she speaks of women's heart taking different forms, I believe she is saying that women intend to change their emotions and also their way of expressing them. She mainly is saying that women don't really know how to stick with their first impressions and they have "waxen hearts". I can also agree with Mayra because her first impression of "waxen" was to think of wax. Yes, wax does transform in various shapes as well as figures and Viola does make the women seem weak in this phrase because she is basically inferring that women can be shaped or made in any form that one wishes. Women are seen to be the weakest, but only because they become dumb when they are in love or they just happen to not know what they want. Yes it is our nature but Viola is just putting it out there that women have hearts that will continuously change to fit to perfection to what the men wish it to be. But not all women are the same, just in Viola's case she thinks that way. But in the end, Viola see's us to be weak at heart because we just adjust to love.
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Post by zacko on Nov 14, 2012 22:24:37 GMT -5
In women's waxen hearts to set their forms! Viola speaks about how easy it is for Olivia to take "Cesario" into her heart. She is describing Olivia's heart as easily changeable since Viola had spoken to her for a short amount of time, yet Olivia fell in love with him/ her in that short amount of time.
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Post by zacko on Nov 14, 2012 22:33:20 GMT -5
I'm agreeing with you Mayra Locs I do believe that hearts are alterable and changeable in Violas Sololiquiy and she finds it degrading how easily women fall for men who are not what meets the eye.
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Post by john petree on Nov 15, 2012 23:23:26 GMT -5
i find it very interesting that everyone sees a waxen heart that changes forms to be a weakness. it is not a weakness, but just something natural not just to women but men to. from experience a man can fall for a girl (or guy, if ur into that type of thing), who is terribly stuck up and mean and change their heart to fit the one of their desire.
ok, so what i thought of this is that viola is saying women can easily fall for anyone, especially for how they look, because im assuming cessario and sebastion were hot, i have sisters, so im positive viola was meaning love by looks, proof of this is the fact that she curses her disguise. oh, i looked up the def. for waxen, and yall were right, it is meaning having the apearance of wax
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